tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8886567613905490071.post3959752178109026922..comments2023-08-01T20:14:02.890-04:00Comments on Thunder Sounds: Foreknowledge and CounterfactualsSLWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04260137021205685080noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8886567613905490071.post-33449563417336582472011-12-23T12:20:42.772-05:002011-12-23T12:20:42.772-05:00Pumice,
Thanks for stopping by, I'm very appre...Pumice,<br />Thanks for stopping by, I'm very appreciative of your comments. Hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas.<br /><br />My aim to pursue truth and let the chips fall where they may. As long as any of us can do that in good will, learn from whatever the source God's grace puts before us, and avoid putting a horse in the race before its time, balance kinda takes care of itself.<br /><br />God doesn't need us as defense attorneys, although that is role we sometimes let ourselves assume. The Pharisees were very guilty of this, it seems to me, and look what reaction they got from Jesus. Truth sets free and can stand on its own, so long as it is faithfully and accurately proclaimed. It really doesn't need our aid or additions, or even our understanding.<br /><br />You are so very right about creatures of time trying to stretch our minds into the timeless. There are things we have to let go of in trust while at the same time wondering.SLWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260137021205685080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8886567613905490071.post-12916952721245241312011-12-23T12:01:06.863-05:002011-12-23T12:01:06.863-05:00It seems to me you are trying to bring out a balan...It seems to me you are trying to bring out a balanced discussion. Two things you said hit me. They may not be the major thrust but were important thoughts.<br /><br />First,<br /><br />"Humans attributing to God what he doesn't claim for himself, even to make him appear "bigger" or "better" doesn't really honor him--at best it would be presumptuous, at worst it would be idolatrous!"<br /><br />We are so guilty of this that the caution is important.<br /><br />Second,<br /><br />"Foreknowledge is based on what God actually sees outside of time, not on permutations of possibilities that he cogitated within the counsels of his own mind before he created."<br /><br />One of the limiting factors we face is that we are creatures of time. Much of this we will not understand until the resurrection, but we are expected to struggle with the mysteries.<br /><br />Grace and peace.Pumicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18384572020071079433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8886567613905490071.post-58388236444044891382011-12-22T20:03:35.560-05:002011-12-22T20:03:35.560-05:00KJ,
The more I look into this the more I see that ...KJ,<br />The more I look into this the more I see that unavoidable conclusion. Molinism doesn't produce a practically different view from compatibilism. Molinism, it seems to me, offers little more than a tightly confined rat maze for the "free" agent to navigate.SLWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260137021205685080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8886567613905490071.post-62747578872668863522011-12-22T12:33:30.784-05:002011-12-22T12:33:30.784-05:00Hi SLW, You capture well my thoughts on this topic...Hi SLW, You capture well my thoughts on this topic. The idea of God using middle knowledge to exhaustively decree events is hardly distinguishable from full blown Calvinism, and ultimately must deal with the same troubling "character of God" issues. I do realize that Arminian Molinists disagree with those implications.Kevin Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13472900037134045450noreply@blogger.com