Tuesday, December 11, 2007

When Grace Leads to Universalism

What can we know about God's heart? About what drives him, what moves him, what makes him draw lines in the sand? The answer of course is the Bible, our source for all that is indisputable regarding God. I suppose that experientially, we can come to know these sorts of things in a more personally relevant way through our fellowship with God through his Spirit alive within us, but any and every thing we can know beyond doubt arises from the Word.

Some passages I've always found particularly salient in this regard are 2 Peter 3:9 (copied here for ease):

The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

and Ezekiel 18:23 and 33:11, which virtually say the same thing (the latter is copied here):
As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live.

and I Timothy 2:4
God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

What these verses tell me, indisputably, is that God wants people, all people, saved. There is no glory in his mind in anyone being lost. There will not be one person thrown into eternal torment whom the Lord would not rather have by his side in glory. Which leads to another thought--why can't God have what he wants? I mean he is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omnitemporal. What stands in the way of such a God getting what he desires? Certainly, if he desires it, it must be good by definition!

As some fashion them, the so-called doctrines of grace declare that people get saved because of a sovereign act of God. He chooses, they believe and persevere, irresistibly. The only thing that stands between heaven and hell is God pushing the grace button within the soul. Once pushed, salvation is inevitable.

Is that a problem? Yes, if we actually take what God has told us about himself to be true! He has said of himself that he doesn't want anyone to be lost. The scripture is clear about this. If all it took to accomplish his desire was his own act, how would he act? Since I'm not willing to diagnose God as schizophrenic, 
I must answer that He would save everyone. God would have to be schizophrenic to state a particular desire (a desire that must be good because it's his), yet not be able to bring his considerable skills and goodness to bear to accomplish it.

However, we know not everyone will be saved. There must be some other factor in the equation that God is not willing to circumvent. Suffice it to say, to hold on to sovereign election as promulgated in the doctrines of grace and also to accept God's testimony about himself, one would be forced, it seems to me (and perhaps the history of Calvinistic churches in New England bears this out), to inevitably fall into the trap of adopting universalism.


jul said...

I believe it's possible to believe that God's heart is to save all, that those who are saved are predestined and chosen by him, and there is a hell where some people will be eternally damned to. Why? Because all 3 are supported in Scripture. We need to stop choosing one verse over another according to what makes logical sense to us and believe everything God says...Possibly you've implied that it's dangerous to believe certain truths of Scripture because they might logically lead to an error in doctrine. Maybe I'm misunderstading... Anyway, I enjoyed your revelation of God's heart of love and desire to save all men...it's true!

SLW said...

I hope you and your's are safe and warm in the midst of all the bad weather up that way! Incidentally, I dropped by the new church's website. It must be exciting staking out a new claim.

I actually believe all three of those scripturally supported points as well and agree with you about accepting the testimony of scripture even in the face of paradox. Logic can't get us to God, only revelation can.

The issue is interpretation and application. I think any intepretation or application of any particular text must hold water with every other text of scripture or not be considered correct. Interpretive schema (or maybe templates is a better way to look at it) laid upon the scripture which try to tidily corral everything within their framework are bound to be inconstitent with the Word itself. I was just poking at one point in particular that taken to the ultimate, leads to an unforseen and erroneous conclusion.

Thanks for the comment, I really appreciated its tenor. Stay warm!

jul said...

We're safe and almost warm lol. Thanks for caring! Your comment clarifies a little better for me where you're coming from, thanks. I always find your posts thought provoking which is why I read your blog.

SLW said...

Thanks jul, I've been known to provoke other things! :-)